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to be colonelism to many haitians if we're crude about it and especially if it's only us who do it. we ought to be the major party in that effort because most of the resources probably will have to come from us, but as you said, there is brazil and other countries in the area that would be involved. the french have a moral obligation, a cultural link. they could be more involved. so, once we let the human capital sort of assert itself, i think haiti could be quite attractive caribbean country. >> what lesson do you draw that you look at haiti and then look across the border to the dominican republic and the dominican republic is doing very well for a third world country and it's peaceful and it's stable and how could these two countries have such different paths? >> well, they've had, to some extent, different political experiences and the haitians just had bad luck with some particular leaders and then there was this even very specific phenomenon of deforestation in haiti in which the dominicans wisely did not emulate and that did damage the base in haiti. >> you know people who make broade
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